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Socoder -> Blitz -> BB vs Virus Protection

Mon, 30 Jun 2025, 16:15
dna

Error


I get an odd error when launching BB under windows 10
It gives me the message:

PUAAdvertising:win32/ShopHome

Every single time I tell the threat protection to block or delete it but it still returns every time the application is launched. I'm thinking it's something inside of the BB IDE somewhere.
What's going on?

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DNA
Mon, 30 Jun 2025, 16:40
Pixel_Outlaw
I imagine you tried to download BlitzBasic and got malware

Or your computer got infected by something that replaces launchers.

Where did you get the original binary from?
Mon, 30 Jun 2025, 17:01
Jayenkai
"What's going on?"
A False Positive is what's happening.
This is when someone, somewhere, creates something "a bit virusy" using the language, and the virus scanner can't quite decide what bit of the program is causing that, so flags a normally insignificant bit of code as if it's a virus.

Imagine you're at school, get a post-it note, and draw a bit floppy willy on the thing and stick it under a desk. A teacher finds it, and then the headteacher decides the best way to stop this terrible behaviour is to ban post-it notes, outright. Every post-it, because they're evil...

Well, your virus scanner, at some point, must've found something bad in one program.. Presumably one written using Blitz, and then went "Oh, then that must be the culprit", and is producing a "False Positive" report about Blitz as a whole, instead of just the one bad program.

First thing you need to do, is send your copy of Blitz to your Virus Scanner's creator, with some kind of "I think this is a false positive" report. There should be a report button somewhere. Have a good nosey around the UI.

Second, as Pixel_Outlaw suggests, maybe double check that you have a proper version, and not some creepy alternative edition that shouldn't exist.

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Mon, 30 Jun 2025, 19:26
dna
Where is the most reliable source for downloading BB?

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DNA
Mon, 30 Jun 2025, 23:31
Dan
Probably still from the itch.io site : https://blitzresearch.itch.io/ (recompiled and updated files)

or maybe this one: https://nitrologic.itch.io/blitz3d (should be old, legacy installed/r files)

but, if you look at the comments there, you may find out that they are complaining about the same problem, as well.
Tue, 01 Jul 2025, 03:16
RemiD
here are alternative links :

Blitz3d 1.108 installer + all updates + all doc paks + addon B003 + dplayx lib + dx7 lib :
http://rd-stuff.fr/blitz3d/blitz3d-1.108-installer+addons-B003+docpaks+dplayx+dx7.7z


the only reason to use the blitz3d 1.108 installer in this archive, (rather than the last installer published on blitzresearch.itch.io/blitz3d )
is that the addons by Bobysait have been coded to work with the 1.108 version...

the addons by Bobysait mainly add the possibilities to create bones, to create skinned vertices, to set weights (influences) of some bones over some vertices, to get skinned vertices positions while animating.


IDEal :
http://rd-stuff.fr/blitz3d/IDEal_0.8.94_setup.7z
http://rd-stuff.fr/blitz3d/IDEal_patch_win8_v0.8.0.294.7z
Tue, 01 Jul 2025, 11:35
dna
Probably still from the itch.io site : https://blitzresearch.itch.io/ (recompiled and updated files)

or maybe this one: https://nitrologic.itch.io/blitz3d (should be old, legacy installed/r files)

but, if you look at the comments there, you may find out that they are complaining about the same problem, as well.


Then it might be some sort of bug. I'll replace my copy with that one, but I do have he original that was given away in PCPlus magazine somewhere but that one is almost archaic. If the problem persists, I'll move back to the original when I find it.

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DNA
Tue, 01 Jul 2025, 12:09
Dan
This is my explanation of the problem:

If someone writes a malicious app with blitzbasic, and this gets reported to the virus scan companies, these may examine the code in order to find what is causing the threat.

I can only guess that the calls to the file write functions would be flagged as malicious, not necessarily the underlying code that calls these functions.
Because it is a compiled language, there may be a code that is always the same, across all the compiled executables.

So if the malicious code gets flagged, the executables which are safe may get flagged as well because they share the same codebase.
Tue, 01 Jul 2025, 14:39
dna
The error comes about only when the compiler, bb, is initially opened. It occurs at no other time during the programming or executing cycle.
I downloaded the RemID suggested version. Hopefully that also has the old ASCII codes list embedded.

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DNA