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Socoder -> Off Topic -> BBC Basic 2.0?

Tue, 14 Feb 2012, 16:50
Jayenkai
Doesn't look as "Basic" as PMC though. Eeeuw.. bracketty!!

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Tue, 14 Feb 2012, 16:50
Jayenkai
And, speaking of BBC, I’m going to assume this is something to do with Raspberry Pi, ’cos those guys kept banging on about BBC Basic a lot, without showing any examples of it.. Linkage (Perhaps something to be wary of, DD?)

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Tue, 14 Feb 2012, 16:59
JL235
I was told it uses JavaScript. They were teaching this at the conference-teaching thing I went to at the weekend, but I didn't get to see it.

Both of the BBC devs I met already knew about PMC, and loved it.
Tue, 14 Feb 2012, 17:08
JL235
It's also not web based, it's Eclipse based!
Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 07:01
steve_ancell
What everer "based" it is, let's just hope it don't cost as much as a BBC Micro did back in the day, this could be a good thing at the right price and could really compliment the Raspberry Pi.

|edit| Who knows!, is the Rasperry Pi becomming the new de-facto standard in-school computer?; maybe the next model will come with "BBC BASIC" on a fitted ROM chip just like the BBC Micro had, only this time the students may actually be able to have one at home due to the lower price and actually take their work home with them. |edit|

|edit| The BBC Micro of the 1980's was a very pricey bit of kit as far as I remember, that's why most of us had ZX Spectrums and stuff. |edit|
Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 09:39
Jayenkai
Aye, compatibility issues was a biggy, back then, but most Basic's seemed vaguely similar.. In fact, most of the "Games for Basic" type books were reusable on a whole bunch of systems. .. as long as they stuck to the simple stuff!

.. having said all that, the site's vanished, and I've no idea what's going on there.
.. wonder if it were actually BBC's to start with?

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Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 09:54
Afr0
Dunno why you're all so nostalgic about the eighties... there were no MMOs back then, only MUDs!!

Edit: And no Sims!!

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Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 10:04
Jayenkai
Because when you were a kid, this shit was awesome!!


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Kids had patience..
.. and a deck of cards/comic/magazine on standby.

PS, twitter posts are also now saying that this was a hoax.
fucksocks...
|edit| And now we're back to "no, it was just an unfinished preview site".. Gonna have to wait and see wtf it's all about |edit|

|edit| Thought of the day : What the fuck is that loading, and where the hell is it cramming it all!? |edit|

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Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 10:17
steve_ancell
Afr0 Dunno why you're all so nostalgic about the eighties... there were no MMOs back then, only MUDs!!

Edit: And no Sims!!

If you were there, you'ld understand.
Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 10:49
JL235
Raspberry Pi today claimed it's a hoax, and that the project the BBC is working on is not this.

Simply not true.
Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 10:56
steve_ancell
So they know how to stage a hoax but haven't got anywhere near the tallent to make this thing real, well they're the one's who will be wiping egg off their faces.
Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 12:03
Jayenkai
Methinks DD oughta be wiping the egg for them, whilst subtly replacing everything with PMC

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Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 12:05
steve_ancell
Then perhaps DD could appraoach the makers of Raspberry Pi with that idea.
Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 12:08
JL235
To clarify, the BBC project is not a hoax, at all.
Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 12:53
steve_ancell
Perhaps there could even be a modern version of Micro Live in the making.
Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 12:58
Jayenkai
There's an annoying amount of "Hey, we can put XYZ emulator on it " crap going on, on twitter, about the Raspberry Pi...


Tell me I'm not alone, in thinking that that's totally missed the fucking point of this device....!!

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Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 13:18
Jayenkai
Must admit, it's pretty damn cool seeing PlayMyCode all over twitter!! The "hoax/not" is proving pretty good for DD!!

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Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 13:22
steve_ancell
Jayenkai Tell me I'm not alone, in thinking that that's totally missed the fucking point of this device....!!

Well if it's going to be a machine for teaching, it has to have some sort of in-built beginners language, it's traditional.
Thu, 16 Feb 2012, 20:45
steve_ancell
Has anyone been back to that site yet?, it's back up again.

|edit| And they are even using the BBC MicroLive logo. |edit|
Thu, 16 Feb 2012, 20:48
Jayenkai
It'll probably be a while, I'd imagine. At least until after Pi's released, anyway.

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Thu, 16 Feb 2012, 20:51
steve_ancell
Let's just hope it is actually about programming and not just turn into a project about shitty spreadsheets and applications stuff.
Thu, 16 Feb 2012, 20:53
steve_ancell
If there is going to be a MicroLive of the 21'st century, Fred Harris is probably too old and haggered by now, looks like me may have to make do with Adam Hart-Davis. LMAO!

|edit| I used to find Fred Harris' abillity to turn a programming lesson into a comical one quite amusing |edit|
Thu, 16 Feb 2012, 21:11
steve_ancell
Something to get the older generation back in the mood, best to fast-forward to 3:10 to get to the more interesting bit.


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Thu, 16 Feb 2012, 21:39
steve_ancell
Here's another one of Fred explaining what a loop is, this bloke is just pure genius. If you fast-forward to 7:00, he even uses another old buzzword "listing", that's source code to those of you who weren't around back then.


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|edit| And before anyone starts saying "but we already know what a loop is, why are we watching this?", just remember, there was once a time when you didn't know, this man used to make stuff sound so simple. |edit|