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Kuron
Created : 18 June 2025
Edited : 18 June 2025

JSE & SpiderBasic
Going to go ahead and renew my SpiderBasic license. Combined with JSE should have all bases covered. SB allows for modern sprites and such via WebGL as well as apps. JSE is great for all of the retro & text based stuff. And Adventuron for text adventures.

Agree with Jay, the way forward (if for no other reason than to keep your sanity) is to shoot for web-based software. It just works on any platform, no deployment issues with false positives from AV software.

Not used the Mac version of SB's IDE, but it does have one and should work well.

I can host the games on Itch.io or my own site. AFAIK, the game below was written in SB and was well-received. Also lots of traditional games have been done in SB and been impressive.

http://www.soccer-trainer.com/soccer-trainer.php

I have a couple of games in mind that I am working on in the board games genre, that would make a good online port using SB and in the style and complexity of the game above.

Toss in Pico8 and some other retro targets, and I am happy. Done with straight deployments for Windows. MS has destroyed it with DPI issues and false positives (even if digitally signed).

 

Comments
Thursday, 19 June 2025, 04:16
Jayenkai
 		Microsoft's stuck between a rock and a hard place. They'd LOVE to Apple-up the ecosystem and lock everything down, but they have over thirty years of compatibility that they have to try to maintain, at the same time.
I firmly believe that they oughta "do something else".. like how iOS is NOT MacOS.
When MS tried to convince everyone that "Windows 8 on Mobile" was "Windows 8... on Mobile", but it wasn't. That fell to pieces pretty damn quick.
If instead, they said "Metro for Mobiles" and then "Metro on Windows"..
...
You know.. I bet that would've worked.

... anyhoo, if they could clamp down, now, they damn well would. And then all of our games would be crushed in the process.
Boooo!!!
And lately, their Apple-chasing ways have shown that it's going to be a case of when, not if..

My only hope is that Browsers don't end up going the same way.
... Erk!!

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JSE has a lovely "Download HTML5 Project" button that you can upload to your server, or directly to sites like itch.io, which contains a player edition of JSE, ready to go. (Though, do note that I haven't stress tested this of late, and quirks might crop up. I need to do that..)

Unzip the contents onto your server, point to index.html, job done.

The PlayMP3 command will only play my music from this server, but if you do the download thing, you can easily replace any mp3s with your own stuff. Job's a good'en.

As for any thoughts of types and such...
I dunno, they might be doable, but if I'm honest, they'd likely just be converted to arrays, and functions would then just be converted likewise. . If I ever do get functions working!
JSE is an oldskool BASIC