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Socoder -> Off Topic -> Plastic Lids
Sun, 02 Jul 2023, 09:43
Jayenkai
 		The plastic milk bottles at Tesco no longer have plastic lids on them.. Only the paper/foil rip-off lid.

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Sun, 02 Jul 2023, 09:43
cyangames
 		Weird
Sun, 02 Jul 2023, 09:49
Jayenkai
 		This is the same crap as them not putting plastic lids on the coleslaw, anymore.
"Single use plastics" and "none-recyclable.."
Why are the lids not made from the same plastic as the rest of the tub/bottle? Surely that should be the main priority, right? Instead of leaving food inside containers that don't have proper lids, so the food goes off and we end up wasting more food.

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Sun, 02 Jul 2023, 10:20
steve_ancell
 		That's gonna go down well when milk goes off quicker.
Sun, 02 Jul 2023, 10:26
Kuron
 		Won't even get started on how backwards my state is when it comes to such things.
Mon, 03 Jul 2023, 05:35
cyangames
 		Maybe they decided to sell the lids separately as part of a subscription model? JK JK

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Mon, 03 Jul 2023, 07:27
spinal
 		Just keep your old lid
Mon, 03 Jul 2023, 07:28
Kuron
 		/me mumbles something about damn paper straws that are only good for one sip before they disintegrate...
Mon, 03 Jul 2023, 09:15
cyangames
 		yup, agreed
Mon, 03 Jul 2023, 09:27
spinal
 		wait, glass bottles only had foil lids.
Mon, 03 Jul 2023, 09:54
Jayenkai
 		True, and we managed just fine with those for a single pint.. But when you get a 4 pint bottle....? Is that the same, or is that worse?!

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Mon, 03 Jul 2023, 10:38
spinal
 		It's got a handle..... that's better....

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Fri, 07 Jul 2023, 09:16
Jayenkai

The milk now has a new plastic lid, made from the same material as the bottle. Gud gud.
People must've whinged
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Next up, removing the cardboard tube from the toilet roll, because...

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Fri, 07 Jul 2023, 13:33
cyangames
 		I can guess as to why, probably a combination of the following:

Cheaper to manufacture without adding the glue, etc or the cardboard roll, therefore a bit cheaper.

Offset the manufacturing price with a selling point, I dunno, maybe it can be shipped with more sheets or something.

It might boost sales for the over obsessive green peeps whilst hopefully providing more value to the customer, albeit at the expense of some of those sheets which should have been added to provide the value in the first place.

Last but not least, some sorta emissions tax loophole, you know the one, where you offset your carbon footprint with money, thus making the problem go away for anyone with enough monies.


I'm just gonna have a word with George Abdubadubwengo, he mentioned something about Ugandan Dollars over the phone earlier

I guess the real question is though, do they work okay when you get to the end of them? I'd be interested to know of all things

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Fri, 07 Jul 2023, 13:37
Jayenkai
 		I'll let you know once we open the pack, and get to the end of the first roll!! We've still got 2 or 3 of the Rhubarb and Raspberry ones to get through, first. ... .... *shrugs* Mum doesn't half but some weird stuff.

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Fri, 07 Jul 2023, 16:19
Kuron
 		Tubeless rolls? There go all the free chew/play toys for pet hamsters and rabbits.
Fri, 07 Jul 2023, 16:26
steve_ancell
 		Next they'll be replacing bog roll with three sea shells.
Fri, 07 Jul 2023, 17:09
Kuron
 		Here, Oregon... When I moved here in some ways it was like stepping back into the 70s. Many of the stores only had paper bags... And you had to pay for bags most places.

We quit using paper bags here in the USA in the 70s. One can a soup would be enough to make the bag tear and fall apart. They haven't improved in the past 50 years.

The last I knew, it took more energy to produce paper bags than plastic and it took more energy to recycle paper bags than plastic. So the argument of plastic being bad, doesn't hold up to logic most times.

Plastic bags in Maryland and Tennessee from Walmart and most other places were biodegradable. They would fall apart in around two weeks. Stick something in the shed, go in two weeks later to get it, the bag is damn near fallen to dust and flakes.

Here in Oregon? The plastic bags that were in use when I got here, will be here thousands of years from now. They are super thick and heavy duty. Great for carrying groceries, but they do NOT break down.

Regardless of what type of plastic bag it is, I reused them until they were worn out and then recycled them.

Now stores like Walmart here will not even give out bags, you have to bring your own. Thankfully in the past year, I accumulated a lot of Walmart bags that will never break down, so I have a lot to bring with me.

Back in the mid 90s, in Maryland the stores would give you five cents for every bag of your own you brought in and used. No such incentives here.

No REAL recycling here, like we had in Tennessee, Maryland and California. Here you have deposits on bottles and cans, again a throwback to the 70s. Soda cans and soda bottles are the only things you can take to the recycling places or the machines to get your money back on the deposits. I could care less about the 10 cent deposit and getting money back, but I would like to be able to recycle soup cans, soap jugs, etc. Nope. Not in this area. Even in rural Tennessee, you could recycle paper, most plastics, any kind of cans or bottles, including glass. Not here, just tin soda cans and plastic soda bottles. *shakes head* And this is supposed to be a progressive yuppie state that cares about the environment.

So here, I have had to get used to the 70s and throwing away paper, food cans, plastic bottles and glass bottles. You can recycle cardboard here. So, I can get rid of Amazon boxes and have them recycled.

In Tennessee, recycling was actually recycled and was recycled here in the USA. No idea if things here in Oregon actually get recycled. In many areas it is a scam and used to get shipped to China, until they got tired of it, and now much gets sent to India, or just ends up in a landfill somewhere here in the states,

The only thing that isn't like stepping back into the 70s are the prices. Don't get me wrong, I love where I live, but it is not remotely an environmentally friendly state, at least where consumer goods are concerned.

And don't get me started on recycling things like oil, batteries and old car tires. Even in rural Tennessee, this was easy and simply and actually existed. Tennessee actually cared about the environment, as did Maryland.

But, yet we are going to save the world by not having cardboard tubes in Jay's toilet paper. Seriously WTF?

Biggest question of this thread is WFT is Rhubarb and Raspberry toilet paper? Is it scented or made from paper from those plants?

In Tennessee, when Covid hit and some of the toilet paper brands changed, we ended up with some that was Lavender scented. Ole' Kuron loves the smell of lavender and uses lavender oil in his oil warmer to freshen up the Kuron funk wafting through the studio, but Ole' Kuron doesn't smell with his back end, only with his nose, so scented toilet paper is largely lost on Ole' Kuron unless it is the odd time allergies act up and I need to blow my nose.