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Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 05:41
Jayenkai
Slight gripe : I hit Z to start (A natural impulse from having had that be my Main Button in so many of my own games) and it decided to quit!

But otherwise, a nice simple puzzle-floating game.
Hurrah!!

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Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 05:41
rockford
My new game, AquaVenture - Linkage






|edit| Added image of game
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 05:45
rockford
Yeah, that's because it's actually a console game (Pandora, Wiz, GP2X, Caanoo) and they share key values with their buttons (eg, "Z").

I will update that later so it's pc specific
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 05:46
steve_ancell
Doesn't even run on my system, I just get the send error report messagebox.

|edit| Was looking so forward to playing it too. |edit|
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 05:48
rockford
Really? Maybe you were downloading while I was upping a newer version (just now - didn't expect peeps to D/L it quite so quickly.

Would you mind downloading again and let me know if it works this time?
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 05:50
steve_ancell
I will try again.
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 05:53
steve_ancell
Still no joy.



Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 05:55
rockford
Cheers. I've never seen that (or had that reported) by anyone in 5 years of using GLBasic. Weird.


Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 06:14
Dabz
Steve's PC is the perfect testing PC IMO, he picked up a bug in BambooBasic that failed to rear its head regardless of which version of Windows I tested on, as well as spread over a couple of hardware configs...

In the end, I found out it was paths and the current working directory that made it lose it's rag, so, check that before you start loading stuff (config files, media etc etc), I still dont really no the exact reason his Windows installation is working differently from anything I have, but there we are, that was indeed the problem in my case... Maybe the same?

Dabz

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Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 06:21
steve_ancell
Dabz Steve's PC is the perfect testing PC IMO

AKA a fossil.
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 06:22
rockford
The path aspect could be to blame, but the game doesn't care where the media is, as long as it stays in the same folder as the game - you can put it anywhere on your pc. The game doesn't load any profile at start-up, so that shouldn't be an issue until "Continuing"

Steve: I'll create a small app tomorrow to see if it is a path issue or something else, if you don't mind trying it?
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 06:24
steve_ancell
Yeah, I don't mind testing it for ya.
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 06:26
steve_ancell
@Dabz:

I'm almost recovered from this current mood-swing I've been having so I should be able to get back to testing out Bamboo pretty soon.
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 06:35
Dabz

I'm almost recovered from this current mood-swing I've been having so I should be able to get back to testing out Bamboo pretty soon.


You take your time there fella!


but the game doesn't care where the media is, as long as it stays in the same folder as the game


Thats what I thought too, and thus, got it fixed by setting the working directory to the directory that held the executable and appending the folder name to it that I wanted to access, so, instead of just setting (In my case), "/bin", or even using "/bin/bsg.exe", I had to set it like appDir+"/bin/bsg.exe"

Something along the lines of that, odd yes, because just setting it as normal worked for me, but, wouldnt on Steves!

"bsg.exe" is the executable I call from the BambooBasic editor, so, the structure looks something like this:-

-{system}/BambooBasic
-{system}/BambooBasic/BambooEditor.exe
-{system}/BambooBasic/bin
-{system}/BambooBasic/bin/bsg.exe

Dabz

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Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 07:37
rockford
It already does that.
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 10:26
Afr0
Can't get past "You've got to be squiddling"
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 10:54
Dabz

It already does that.


Mmmmm... Probably the best bet then would to be implement a custom image/music/sound loader that checks if the current file your trying to load exists or not before attempting to load it up, if the path(s) are knackered, well, then you can knock a little bit debug info out in a log, then, graciously end the app.

I do that in BlitzMax apps, never did it in GLBasic because both my games were iOS only.

Anyway, I'm in Linux at the minute, will give it a whirl when I log offski back into Windows, but... Looking at the screenie... Very nice!

Dabz

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Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 14:19
rockford
The thing is though, GLBasic doesn't crash, even if you try to load stuff that it can't find. Try it - delete the Media folder and run the .EXE. It doesn't crash. The lack of media is not the issue, so that rules out path problems too.
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 14:39
Dabz
Mmmmm, very odd then!

Maybe Steve can have a look at updating his drivers, maybe do a Windows update.

If not, well, your definitely in the realms of outputting a log file anyway, only way your gonna find exactly where in your app it's getting killed on his machine.

Worse kind of bugs them, remote ones, I was on the verge of jumping in the van and driving the 6 hours or so to his house just to see what the hell it was doing, it had my head battered!

Dabz


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Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 14:45
rockford
I actually suspect an OPENGL issue, but can't be sure. Dunno.
Sat, 16 Feb 2013, 16:35
steve_ancell
My PC is set up for automatic updates.
Sun, 17 Feb 2013, 01:03
Dabz
I had a play, runs fine on my end... Love the idea behind the game Mr R, nice job!

Dabz

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Sun, 17 Feb 2013, 02:19
rockford
My PC is set up for automatic updates.

Including graphics drivers?

I had a play, runs fine on my end... Love the idea behind the game Mr R, nice job!

Cheers
Sun, 17 Feb 2013, 06:24
steve_ancell
I'm not sure about graphics drivers being included but I do know that my GFX card isn't OpenGL compatible, I had to download GLDirect to bridge that issue so that I could play OpenGL based games. GLDirect is actually a discontined product but the latest version can still be downloaded.

www.majorgeeks.com/GLDirect_d381.html
Sun, 17 Feb 2013, 06:31
rockford
That'll be the problem, probably.
Sun, 17 Feb 2013, 06:36
steve_ancell
Shouldn't be a problem though, all GLDirect does is put an extra layer between an OpenGL application and DirectX. I might need to do a complete re-install at some point either that or keep this machine in its current state for testing purposes and get another PC.
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